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So all in all, I'm not applying to both french programs (TF at ESSEC and ESCP Europe). Both are not really suited to my profile, it's more for people that already have 2-3 years experience.

I'm applying to these:

Bocconi
St.Gallen
Warwick
Imperial
Cass (Master in Finance and Master in Banking and International Finance, I might apply to a 3rd one just to maximize my chances, you can give 3 options so why not take advantage. Although the other finance related programs look tough; Master in Quantitative Finance, MSc in Mathematical Trading and Finance. Anyone know how good these are? I don't really feel like doing financial models 100% of my time though but if it's a good degree for later then why not.)

That's 6 or 7 (depending on Cass) different programs I'm applying to, it's a good number IMO. Gives me more chances.

Also, I might decide to apply to Essec's Master in Finance (It's a new program, it's not the master in TF) and maybe HEC Lausanne (I'm sure to get in, have a Swiss bachelor degree so I'm 100% guaranteed to get in), just to be sure. But I don't want to go to Lausanne.

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Hey,

if you are searching for a back-up, WU-Wien in Vienna might be an okay choice. Not sure if the admissions are still open and what are the requirements. They have a huge alumni base (probably biggest in EU), and top students place really well. It should be cheap and living costs are low while the standard is high.

BB banks recruit there actively, although not all of them come each year. I've all of them, from top like GS, MS, JPM to lower such as UBS, BNP, Nomura etc. Elite boutiques (LAZ, PWP), MBB (McK, BCG) as well.

Most of the people, though, end up at regional banks (UniCredit, Raiffeisen, Sberbank) or Big4.

Good luck anyways and keep us posted :)

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The MSc in Management from ESCP IS NOT suited for people who already have 2-3 years experience and it places way better than Cass.

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swissstud, the best Msc at Cass are Shipping, Trade and Finance and Energy, Trade and Finance. Those are basically the only "target" courses for trade finance and commodity trading in the UK whereas the courses you listed are way down the list in their respective fields. Those fields might not be your first choice but if you have to attend your safety, why not make it a target in it's field?

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swissstud, the best Msc at Cass are Shipping, Trade and Finance and Energy, Trade and Finance. Those are basically the only "target" courses for trade finance and commodity trading in the UK whereas the courses you listed are way down the list in their respective fields. Those fields might not be your first choice but if you have to attend your safety, why not make it a target in it's field?

Ok so I think I'll chose the master in Energy, Trade and Finance as my 3rd option. But the MSc in Finance and the MSc in Banking & International Finance are still pretty decent, right? I mean, you're also right in the heart of London, close to the biggest financial institutions in the world, it has a good alumni networking I heard.

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Hey,

if you are searching for a back-up, WU-Wien in Vienna might be an okay choice. Not sure if the admissions are still open and what are the requirements. They have a huge alumni base (probably biggest in EU), and top students place really well. It should be cheap and living costs are low while the standard is high.

BB banks recruit there actively, although not all of them come each year. I've seen all of them, from top like GS, MS, JPM to lower such as UBS, BNP, Nomura etc. Elite boutiques (LAZ, PWP), MBB (McK, BCG) as well.

Most of the people, though, end up at regional banks (UniCredit, Raiffeisen, Sberbank) or Big4.

Good luck anyways and keep us posted :)

Will definitely check it out. I've heard of it already but living in Vienna didn't really appeal to me.

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The MSc in Management from ESCP IS NOT suited for people who already have 2-3 years experience and it places way better than Cass.

Ah ok. But I'm pretty sure my degree wasn't suitable, they want a 4 year bachelor degree (mine is 3 years). Plus the deadline is April 14th so I would have never had the time, especially if I start now. I need references, most teachers are on Easter holiday and I don't feel like getting one from a marketing professor or something so.

But I now have 6-7 programs so I'm pleased.

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Anyway, since all applications are due until end of April, it is now time to do my motivational letters. Some programs ask for 1 page, others 2, it changes.

I was wondering what I had to include in my letter. I mean, I don't think I'm supposed to "brown-nose" the universities like one is supposed to do in the US but I really don't know how to do this. Also, I don't think I'm supposed to "talk" about my life that much, I just need to mention why I'm choosing this program and why I think they should pick me. But I could be mistaken.

My ultimate goal is to work in IB and if possible, my dream would be to work in a hedge fund. Should i state this, if yes, how? What should I NOT say? Should it be very professional and formal or can I use a more relaxed style of writing. Should I make it stand out or do they not really care about the motivation letters, it's just procedure. I'm really a bit lossed.

The only program that states explicitily that it gives points out (They give out points for the GMAT score, GPA, profile and letter and you need a certain number of points to get accpeted) for the motivation letter is St.Gallen so I might have to change it up for that one, make it stand out more than for other programs.

One last thing, is it a issue if I use the same template for all programs. I mean I can just change the name of the institution and the degree, is there anything wrong or dangerous with that?

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Hey guys,

I found this ranking that someone did on the percentage of students from certain universities that broke into front positions in IB:

Does this seem precise to you? It's not that old (October 2012) so it must apply today as well.

http://news.efinancialcareers.com/118675/the-top-1...

If this is the case, I'm really interested in applying to Durham and UCD Dublin. What do you guys think of these two programs? I had read about Durham a few months ago but the application requirements seemed way too "easy" for it to be a top tier program (Academic: a good Upper Second class honours degree or overseas equivalent, in a relevant discipline, TOEFL of 92)

But Durham is placed very high here! What gives?

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swissstud:

Hey guys,

I found this ranking that someone did on the percentage of students from certain universities that broke into front positions in IB:

Does this seem precise to you? It's not that old (October 2012) so it must apply today as well.

LOL, Durham higher than HEC?!? Henley? Never heard,
Durham is a good school but Warwick is better for front office position. You should just use linkedin and google to see how many people from there school are working in IBD of HF. If you are looking to make 10 applications then you can also consider Durham and UCD, but they will not give you any edge over the other programs you listed.
Every schools you are applying to, if you have top grades, will allow you to get some interviews for IBD (internships) so any program should work.
Obv. going to LSE, Bocconi, Oxbridge, SSE, HEC and HSG will be better than going to UCD but if you have to choose between nowhere and UCD, UCD will work better...

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swissstud:

Hey guys,

I found this ranking that someone did on the percentage of students from certain universities that broke into front positions in IB:

Does this seem precise to you? It's not that old (October 2012) so it must apply today as well.

LOL, Durham higher than HEC?!? Henley? Never heard,
Durham is a good school but Warwick is better for front office position. You should just use linkedin and google to see how many people from there school are working in IBD of HF. If you are looking to make 10 applications then you can also consider Durham and UCD, but they will not give you any edge over the other programs you listed.
Every schools you are applying to, if you have top grades, will allow you to get some interviews for IBD (internships) so any program should work.
Obv. going to LSE, Bocconi, Oxbridge, SSE, HEC and HSG will be better than going to UCD but if you have to choose between nowhere and UCD, UCD will work better...

I know right, weird. As of today, I'm applying to 6 progams (Boc, HSG, Warw, Imp and 2 Cass). It might be a good idea to send an application at Durham just to be sure. I mean, I'd look stupid if I get rejected at all of them and end up having to do my master degree at my current university here in Switzerland. I just want to maximize my chances. That was always a very important thing for me. At this point, I just want to get into one program. Bocconi is looking good for now (with my GMAT (680)) but I just want to be sure.

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The MSc in Management from ESCP IS NOT suited for people who already have 2-3 years experience and it places way better than Cass.

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swissstud, the best Msc at Cass are Shipping, Trade and Finance and Energy, Trade and Finance. Those are basically the only "target" courses for trade finance and commodity trading in the UK whereas the courses you listed are way down the list in their respective fields. Those fields might not be your first choice but if you have to attend your safety, why not make it a target in it's field?

Hey, if you are searching for

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Hey,

if you are searching for a back-up, WU-Wien in Vienna might be an okay choice. Not sure if the admissions are still open and what are the requirements. They have a huge alumni base (probably biggest in EU), and top students place really well. It should be cheap and living costs are low while the standard is high.

BB banks recruit there actively, although not all of them come each year. I've seen all of them, from top like GS, MS, JPM to lower such as UBS, BNP, Nomura etc. Elite boutiques (LAZ, PWP), MBB (McK, BCG) as well.

Most of the people, though, end up at regional banks (UniCredit, Raiffeisen, Sberbank) or Big4.

Good luck anyways and keep us posted :)

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GoodBread:

swissstud, the best Msc at Cass are Shipping, Trade and Finance and Energy, Trade and Finance. Those are basically the only "target" courses for trade finance and commodity trading in the UK whereas the courses you listed are way down the list in their respective fields. Those fields might not be your first choice but if you have to attend your safety, why not make it a target in it's field?

Ok so I think I'll chose the master in Energy, Trade and Finance as my 3rd option. But the MSc in Finance and the MSc in Banking & International Finance are still pretty decent, right? I mean, you're also right in the heart of London, close to the biggest financial institutions in the world, it has a good alumni networking I heard.

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Hey,

if you are searching for a back-up, WU-Wien in Vienna might be an okay choice. Not sure if the admissions are still open and what are the requirements. They have a huge alumni base (probably biggest in EU), and top students place really well. It should be cheap and living costs are low while the standard is high.

BB banks recruit there actively, although not all of them come each year. I've seen all of them, from top like GS, MS, JPM to lower such as UBS, BNP, Nomura etc. Elite boutiques (LAZ, PWP), MBB (McK, BCG) as well.

Most of the people, though, end up at regional banks (UniCredit, Raiffeisen, Sberbank) or Big4.

Good luck anyways and keep us posted :)

Will definitely check it out. I've heard of it already but living in Vienna didn't really appeal to me.

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The MSc in Management from ESCP IS NOT suited for people who already have 2-3 years experience and it places way better than Cass.

Ah ok. But I'm pretty sure my degree wasn't suitable, they want a 4 year bachelor degree (mine is 3 years). Plus the deadline is April 14th so I would have never had the time, especially if I start now. I need references, most teachers are on Easter holiday and I don't feel like getting one from a marketing professor or something so.

But I now have 6-7 programs so I'm pleased.

Anyway, since all

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Anyway, since all applications are due until end of April, it is now time to do my motivational letters. Some programs ask for 1 page, others 2, it changes.

I was wondering what I had to include in my letter. I mean, I don't think I'm supposed to "brown-nose" the universities like one is supposed to do in the US but I really don't know how to do this. Also, I don't think I'm supposed to "talk" about my life that much, I just need to mention why I'm choosing this program and why I think they should pick me. But I could be mistaken.

My ultimate goal is to work in IB and if possible, my dream would be to work in a hedge fund. Should i state this, if yes, how? What should I NOT say? Should it be very professional and formal or can I use a more relaxed style of writing. Should I make it stand out or do they not really care about the motivation letters, it's just procedure. I'm really a bit lossed.

The only program that states explicitily that it gives points out (They give out points for the GMAT score, GPA, profile and letter and you need a certain number of points to get accpeted) for the motivation letter is St.Gallen so I might have to change it up for that one, make it stand out more than for other programs.

One last thing, is it a issue if I use the same template for all programs. I mean I can just change the name of the institution and the degree, is there anything wrong or dangerous with that?

Hey guys, I found this

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Hey guys,

I found this ranking that someone did on the percentage of students from certain universities that broke into front positions in IB:

Does this seem precise to you? It's not that old (October 2012) so it must apply today as well.

http://news.efinancialcareers.com/118675/the-top-1...

If this is the case, I'm really interested in applying to Durham and UCD Dublin. What do you guys think of these two programs? I had read about Durham a few months ago but the application requirements seemed way too "easy" for it to be a top tier program (Academic: a good Upper Second class honours degree or overseas equivalent, in a relevant discipline, TOEFL of 92)

But Durham is placed very high here! What gives?

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swissstud:

Hey guys,

I found this ranking that someone did on the percentage of students from certain universities that broke into front positions in IB:

Does this seem precise to you? It's not that old (October 2012) so it must apply today as well.

LOL, Durham higher than HEC?!? Henley? Never heard,
Durham is a good school but Warwick is better for front office position. You should just use linkedin and google to see how many people from there school are working in IBD of HF. If you are looking to make 10 applications then you can also consider Durham and UCD, but they will not give you any edge over the other programs you listed.
Every schools you are applying to, if you have top grades, will allow you to get some interviews for IBD (internships) so any program should work.
Obv. going to LSE, Bocconi, Oxbridge, SSE, HEC and HSG will be better than going to UCD but if you have to choose between nowhere and UCD, UCD will work better...